Q&A Report: Molecular Signals Mediating Increases in Muscle Size and Function
The answers to these questions have been provided by:
Bert Blaauw, PhD
Associate Professor/PI
Department of Biomedical Sciences/Venetian Institute of Molecular Medicine
University of Padova
I have a more general question on the overall role of muscle growth: Physical activity (PA) is one of the three major pillars (alongside novelty and social group) of environmental enrichment (EE) and accounts for 50-60% of the total benefits of EE, measured as an increase in cognitive reserve (CR). PA increases PKA and stimulates the Ras-ERK pathway, which eventually influences CNS postsynaptic densities via MSK1, CREB, and Arc/Arg 3.1. In your opinion, which type of physical activity provides the best CNS stimulation and why? Additionally, do you know if the CR benefits are directly linked to muscle growth?
Good question, and also a very difficult one. In my opinion, I would say repeated bouts of muscle activity would be best to modulate nerve remodeling and potentially even improving CR. A paper from Jorge Ruas’ lab, now more than a decade ago, linked pgc1-alpha levels and aerobic exercise to changes in kynurenine metabolism in muscle, which then feeds back on the mood. So really suggesting that metabolic alterations in muscle could alter hippocampal levels of metabolites connected to tryptophan metabolism. Perhaps similar effects could be observed when inducing muscle growth (thinking along the lines of metabolic competition), but my guess would be that aerobic exercise (and therefore not muscle hypertrophy) would be the most effective type of exercise.
By deleting the S6K1 pathway, do you observe an hyperactivation of 4EBP1 pathway compared to wild type (WT)?
Yes we do when we activate Akt. We showed this in figure 4B in Marabita et al., Cell Reports 2016.
Does modulating skeletal muscle AKT activity alter satellite cell abundance?
In the past, we checked this (FASEB J 2009), and while we saw an increase in proliferating interstitial cells, we never found them inside the muscle fibers. So I think there is no evident proliferation of satellite cells.
In age, mTOR activity appears elevated at baseline and less responsive to stimulus. However, several groups report that only S6K1 is activated while 4E-BP1 is not inhibited. How do you reconcile the increase in S6K1 activity in aged mice with decreased function?
Good question, I think a big part of the increased mTORC1 signaling in aged muscle was observed in western blotting. In this case, you take a whole muscle lysate and therefore a mix of all fibers. Marcus Ruegg showed that the increased mTORC1 signal is coming mainly from a few fibers with very elevated mTORC1 signaling. We have seen the same, these fibers are very likely the denervated fibers which increase with aging. So in my mind, increased P-S6, increased denervation, decreased function.
How do you control for the satellite cell pool potentially "adding back" raptor and other deleted proteins to the KO mice? Since HSA-Cre is only expressed in mature skeletal muscle, the AAV-9 is locally injected, etc., as satellite cells proliferate and mature in the absence of tamoxifen/AAV they would, theoretically, express these proteins.
One of the recent papers from Troy Hornberger shows this re-expression nicely in the ‘classical’ functional overload approach. With the HSA-CreER approach, it is critical not to induce/damage/regeneration, as this will lead to re-introduction, unless one continues giving tamoxifen to the animals (not sure this is a great idea). With the AAV-approach, this problem is not so relevant as the is continuously ‘on’ and only in the fibers.
In your AKT mouse model, is VEGF and capillarization also increased with the increase in muscle size?
We never checked VEGF (even though it is likely increasing), but capillarization is clearly increased as we showed in (Blaauw et al., FASEB J 2009).
In the isolated fiber staining, does the mitochondria (tom20 marker) run parallel to the fiber?
We see both transversal and longitudinal staining; however, mitochondrial structure as seen by EM is significantly impaired in skinned fibers.
Is Akt activity sensitive to oxidative stress?
We have found that activation of Akt affects the regulation of anti-oxidant markers in dystrophic muscles (Hum Mol Genetics 2008); however, if oxidative stress affects Akt, I wouldn’t know.
In Raptor KO, you observe an increase size of fiber in transfected fibers: is it fiber type specific? As you demonstrated, mitochondrial pathway is affected in Raptor KO mice.
No, we don’t see any difference in the hypertrophic effect of Akt in different fiber types. I think part of this is also due to the fact that this is really a very strong activation of Akt.
How to reconcile the Rapa and Raptor KO results? What is the actual role(s) of mTOR in hypertrophy?
Very good question, one I am still struggling with myself as well. Clearly, rapamycin doesn’t block all mTORC1 signaling; however, it does hit all parts of the fiber at the same time. Raptor knockout is efficient (by western blotting and RTPCR), but it is not clear to me how much residual mTORC1 signaling remains. I feel that Raptor knockout lowers overall mTORC1 signaling a lot (but not completely, at least not in the beginning as all nuclei need to recombine), possibly affecting the 4E-BP1 ‘branch’ quite significantly. Rapamycin on the other hand inhibits almost completely part of mTORC1 signaling (for example S6K), while not affecting much of the mTORC1 targets. These different levels of inhibition create a situation where the combined inhibitory effect is much stronger than the single one.
What impact does S6K1-/- mouse model have in autophagy since you observe an increase of p62+ aggregates? Level of LC3?
Under basal conditions we don’t observe major differences. There was a paper in drosophila from 2007, I believe, where they even suggested that S6K is involved in the induction of autophagy (to counterbalance the inhibitory effect of mTOR). LC3 levels are not different between wildtype and KO animals
Did you check the Ca transients in your models using rapamycin? Could the increase in muscle force observed with rapamycin be affected by the effect of rapamycin on the ryanodine receptor?
We didn’t check calcium transients, but we also found a strong reduction in the strength of skinned muscle fibers, where calcium is not a limiting factor. So, while we cannot exclude an effect of calcium release, it is clearly not the major factor for the loss in muscle force in vivo. When we give rapamycin in control animals, we don’t see any reduction in specific force (I think the dosage required for affecting the RyR is 5-10 folds higher).
Are zebrafish a good model to assess changes in muscle morphology and function?
I have no experience with this myself, but for morphology I think it is a very nice model, being somewhat transparent. I know there are some methods to measure muscle force, but how reproducible these are and how they correlate with human muscle I don’t know.
What do you think about the potential of heat exposure (whole-body or tissue level) to improve muscle size/function?
Great question – I’ve asked myself this as well multiple times. Temperature in the muscle goes up a lot during exercise (exceeding 40 degrees), and in humans, temperature is known to affect recovery after exercise as well. I think many simple questions need answers in this field, so potentially a very promising avenue.
Does autophagy blockade contribute to the p62 aggregation in AKT-OE mice in aged/RAPTOR background? Is part of the rapamycin benefit the result of restoring basal autophagy?
I believe the p62 aggregates in the aged /S6K background is due to a mix of autophagy inhibition and increased rates of protein synthesis. Rapamycin acts on both, so it is hard to untangle them. There has been in vitro work showing that TSC1/2 ablation leads to impaired protein quality due to high translation rates. That being said, in our model my guess would be that it is a mix of both.
Did long term rapamycin treatment decrease the overall Akt activation by inhibiting mTORC2, even with your genetic Akt activation?
I know this was reported for multiple weeks of rapamycin treatment, but we don’t see this in muscle. It might be a tissue specific thing. When we have the genetic overexpression, we actually see a reduction in the activation levels of the endogenous Akt, making it very difficult in these conditions to evaluate this negative feedback loop.
Can you comment on IGF1 vs insulin? There is a lot of insulin resistance (IR) on muscle.
Good question, and one we don’t have an answer for. What is very clear is that activation of Akt leads to a very quick and significant glucose uptake. For example, fibers transfected with caAkt can also be identified by staining for glycogen content. How the intracellular signaling feeds back on the insulin sensitivity we don’t know though.
Could the absence of muscle mass effect in Raptor KO be explained by a compensation with the FoxO pathway by decreasing muscle degradation?
The short answer to this question is ‘we don’t know’. It is also important to point out though that there are other mediators of adult muscle mass, so particularly under homeostatic conditions, perhaps basal mTORC1 signaling is compensated in part by other signals. That being said, chronic mTORC1 reduction and subsequent hyperactivation of Akt clearly have a strong effect on FoxO.
When you mentioned muscle "function", you only mention force. What about fatigue or oxidative metabolism?
You are correct, muscle function is so much more than just force. I feel that our assays for measuring force decline after electrical stimulation and are not great to look at fatigue, a very complex phenomenon. Also, in part due to its complexity, we have not given the right attention to these aspects yet. We are now working on a story linking mTOR signaling more to fiber type, but we don’t know yet how this works exactly.
Have you looked into the secretome of hypertrophying muscle and how it may regulate growth?
We have started to look into this, but so far without any clear results. There are some nice studies from the group of Ken Walsh who showed some Akt-dependent secretome which could be of your interest.
Do myostatin knockout heterozygotes show a reduction in specific force or does that only appear with the complete knockout? Either in engineered knockouts or natural mutant varieties.
Good question, but I don’t know to be honest. I think that part of the force reduction is more pronounced when working with genetic mutants (so from birth). These mice also show hyperplasia, something never seen in the adult (as far as I know). If you intervene on the myostatin/activin axis in the adult, for example by using a soluble activin receptor decoy, you get growth with an increase in force (at least partial), suggesting that timing is very important in stimulating growth and its effect on increased force production.
Can Akt or raptor ablation, or rapamycin treament, impact motor neurons?
Definitely – we found, for example, that overexpression of Akt in muscle fibers can prevent/reduce the number of denervated fibers in cancer cachexia, suggesting that there is very active muscle-to-motor neuron communication. Rapamycin, being administered systemically, clearly has beneficial effects on the motor neuron.
Have you seen in hypertrophic muscle, not associated with functional force, a normal innervation or polyinnervation ?
When we look at muscles without S6K or Raptor, the functional deficit occurs, at least in part, on the level of the contractile apparatus (reduced force in skinned fibers). So while we cannot exclude a loss of innervation as part of the problem, particularly in the hypertrophic Raptor KO, it is clearly not the main problem. We never observed polyinnervation.
Did you measure Akt activation in the Raptor/Akt transgenic mice upon rapamycin treatment? Was it reduced due to reduced mTORC2 activation? Did you investigate any other mTORC2 targets?
We didn’t check any mTORC2 targets because we didn’t really focus on endogenous Akt activation (which as I mentioned is a bit altered in the transgenic mouse, independently from rapamycin).